“Christians hate Homosexuals and Gays”..Or do they?

I was asked by someone at the Christian Post to respond to an essay written by a person who is in the gay lifestyle. I have not attached the person’s entire essay, but I have pulled a few questions/comments from it (which are in italics) and addressed them below.

“I have had it with the ex-gay liars, homophobic “Christians” and the entire negative attitude towards gay people.”

I will not deny the fact that many people have exhibited extreme hateful behavior toward homosexuals in the name of Christ. Unfortunately, these are the people that get most of the media coverage while the loving, yet truthful, Christian approach toward homosexuals often goes unnoticed. The problem is that even the caring approach many Christians, such as myself, take when talking to those in the homosexual lifestyle is often perceived as hateful and intolerant because it does not line up with their beliefs. I am a Christian who struggles with homosexual thoughts, so I of all people understand the internal battle is that is waged within the gay person. The world is telling people to accept their homosexual feelings as a God-given gift, while the Church is telling them that they must repent from homosexuality and turn to Christ for forgiveness and redemption, just like the rest of mankind is called to do.

“Most right wing and conservative people [Christians] can only talk about 3 things and are limited to those three things. Sin, Judgement, and Hell. THEY KNOW NOTHING ELSE!”

As far as Christians only talking about sin, judgement and hell; the addressing of these issues is a prerequisite to understanding why you need Jesus. Often, people are not tyring to condemn a gay person, but rather trying to get them to see that they are already condemned along with the rest of humanity and need to cling to the Cross of Christ. You can’t understand the good news unless you first understand the bad news. The bad news it that every human being is fallen, broken and incapable of earning good standing with God. Our hearts are corrupt, along with our thoughts and our feelings. We see God, the world and yes, even sex, in a perverted way because of our separation from God. The good news is that Jesus came to absorb the condemnation that we deserve in order that we could be reconciled to God through Him and be shaped into the people that God wants us to be.

“If gay isn’t a choice, how can it be a sin?”

This is a very valid question that is often ignored because the average American Christian has not gained a sound biblical understanding of human depravity, and the pulpit is largely to blame for that. We have avoided the truths that hit us hard while joyously proclaiming only the truths that make us feel good about ourselves. If we only understood our inborn nature, we would not need to be constantly immersed in repetitive “feel good” sermons because our joy would be abundantly overflowing because of the realizatioon of the enormity of what Christ has done for such ill-deserving, ungrateful creatures such as ourselves. The truth is that each and every human being is radically depraved, bent toward sin and evil, and destined to hell without the intervention of Jesus Christ. Sin is not just something you do, it’s who you are. Our hearts, thoughts and feelings are all twisted and grotequely corrupted and that brokenness is where things like homosexual desires come from. The Bible is clear that homosexual behavior is sin, along with adultery, fornication, incest and bestiality. A man doesn’t “choose” to have an adulterous thought come into his mind, but is that grounds for him to be justified in acting out on it? By no means! He is called to turn away from that evil desire, just as the person who is attracted to the same sex is called to turn away from that evil desire. All people are called to turn from these evil desires, regardless of what specific one they struggle with.

“It’s amazing to me how conservative they [Bible-believing Christians] are when it comes to their love, but when it comes to hate, they are the most liberal ones out there.”

It’s quite bewildering to me that although the gay community vastly promotes tolerance, they are quite intolerant when it comes to Christian beliefs. When a Christian tells a homosexual that their liftestyle is not right in the eyes of God and they need to turn to Jesus, they are not being hateful. In all actuality, they are being quite loving. If a parent saw their child running around in the street, would they be hateful for snatching them out of the street before they get hit by a car? Of course not. Any good parent, or even stranger walking by, would not allow a child ignorantly putting themselves in danger to remain in that situation. Likewise, the Christian sees the the reality of what blatant rejection of God results in; an eternity in Hell. Therefore they cannot keep silent while watching their friends, family and collegues ignorantly march toward eternal death.

“People who “don’t live the gay lifestyle” are celebrated as heroes in the “Christian” world, yet because I love another human being with everything in my soul and he happens to be of the same gender, I am evil!?”

People who have same sex desires but don’t act out on them, such as myself, are not “heroes” in the Christian world. We are recipients of mind blowing GRACE. We truly understand what it means to deny yourself daily, pick up your cross and follow Jesus Christ; and no matter how hard it may be or how unfair it may feel at times, we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that our suffering is nothing to be compared with the suffering that Jesus Christ unfairly endured. And as I addressed earlier, the human heart is corrupted. Our ideas of “love” can be far from what love really is. The Word of God is clear that sexual relationships between two people of the same gender are “burning passions” or lust, not love.

God’s will is for us all, regardless of sexual preference, to forsake our sin and believe in Jesus…

Not the “Jesus” that condones your sin.
Not the “Jesus” that wants you to have your best life now.
Not the “Jesus” who makes all your earthly dreams come true.

Believe in the real Jesus.
Believe in the true Jesus.
Believe in the Jesus of the Scriptures.

Matt Moore
mmoore0689@yahoo.com
http://www.moorematt.com

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25 thoughts on ““Christians hate Homosexuals and Gays”..Or do they?

  1. … yes, it is not that christians hate gays, but rather the opposite. it is our love for them that makes us want them to turn from sin to Jesus…

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  2. you really do great job :) God bless you… ;) I am 20 and since 12 yr… I have all these desires,,,and many time they turn into the action..but the same time I have been grow up in christian’s family….and for me I always have been believe in God, Jesus…but many things…I realizing only now… I don’t know how to explain…but now it’s very easy to fight with all these desires… especially when I really care, and really love (love like friend..not like boyfriend :d :p) about friend of mine…who are 16yr…and he have choose gay lifestyle…I really know it’s all because of failure relationships with his ex-girlfriend…. there are always reason why… because all this started at moment when I (12years old i was) had very sad moment with 3 girls…when these girl mocked me ..ok…just very embarrassing moment :( … so so many boys, when there are young have something hurtful and bad with girls…and then it’s turn out at the end – like homosexual relationships etc… so I will keep pray about all these what I know…and even don’t know.. I really care…because as heaven is really , hell too… and because I care I sometimes sound not so ,maybe ,friendly..but actually I am not friendly with sin, and I know there are some pain…which need to be healed by Jesus… so bless ya ;)

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  3. Your last point is beautifully stated. When we “love” someone, we can tell if it is “love” by asking if by this act we are bringing the other person closer to God. So many people say “love” when what they really mean is a feeling, like you describe. That is not love. Sometimes the love comes from *not* acting upon the feeling.

    Wonderful definition of Jesus! Bless you, Matt!

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  5. @ Matt, Aren’t all Christians bible believing? I think we are seeing a clash of cultures and values. I also think the ‘gay community’ is very happy to use labels. They label everything and everyone.

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    • Davide, All “true Christians” are bible believing but then there are groups of people who call themselves “Christians” but their actions show them to be liars. Jesus said that we will know a tree by the fruit it bears. If a person’s (tree’s) actions and behavior (fruit) is according to the commandments of God then we can trust that they are saved and children of God. If the opposite is what we see then, no matter what they call themselves, they don’t know nor are they known by God. Paul said “But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, tranforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (II Corinthians 11:12-15)

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  6. Matt, as usual you did another great job on a post. I know that your intentions are not to promote yourself but to spread the truth so that others may be helped. Also, I know there are people who are going to call you some very unkind words as I myself have experienced them.

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  7. Matt, I love how you constantly work the gospel into your posts. Keep that light shining on top of the hilltop, Friend.

    @ David, my guess is that Matt would say that all true Christians are Bible believing, but there are many people who take the label Christian for themselves who are not Bible believing. I think that even Jesus speaks of this phenomenon when he says in Matt 7:22 “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons vin your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (ESV)

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  8. What does it even mean to be “Bible believing”?

    What I think is implied is that the person believes certain things ABOUT the Bible as well as believing that it MEANS certain things. Usually, it varies by denomination or creed. Ask a Pentecostal if a cessationist is Bible-believing and they’ll say emphatically no. Ask a Baptist if a Catholic is Bible-believing and they’ll say the same thing.

    I can say that I “believe the Bible” really suggests that believers should handle snakes and drink poison. After all, there’s a passage that asserts this

    Mark 16:17-18 “And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

    Who goes about actually doing this outside of a few churches in southern Kentucky? But there it is. The Bible says it. Why doesn’t everyone believe it? We know that Christians can’t drink poison or handle snakes without ever being harmed. So we discard the literal reading of this passage when reality insists we do so. Does that mean we don’t believe it?

    I’ve said this before, but it’s worth repeating: two people who believe in the inerrancy of Scripture can come to two completely different conclusions about what it says regarding faith and morals, not on trivial issues but on MAJOR ones as well.

    Sure, there’s some consensus about homosexuality, but that seems convenient since most people are heterosexual. It’s not hard to find the simplest understanding of a passage when it doesn’t apply to you.

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    • James, real quick about the snake handling and poison drinking. I go with Jesus when He was being tempted and satan told Jesus to cast Himself down from the temple because God said He would give His angels charge over Jesus to keep Him. Jesus said, “It is said, Thou shalt not temp the Lord thy God.

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  9. “The Word of God is clear that sexual relationships between two people of the same gender are “burning passions” or lust, not love. ”

    That’s not my experience. Should I discount my experience for what someone else is telling me I’m feeling? I’ve been with the same person for over a year. We’ve supported each other in just about every way. I helped him buy a car. He involves himself in my life even when it’s stuff he probably normally wouldn’t be interested in. This is “lust”? Lust generally can’t be bothered with spending a Friday night in the hospital because your boyfriend is there with an injury.

    I’m not suggesting that there aren’t gays out there who do live to satisfy every sexual urge, and the safety and feelings of others be damned. There are. There are straight men like this too, though. Many of them. I’ve known straight men who not only left their wives but their children as well when a younger, hotter woman came along.

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  10. @ James Columbus, Our Lord’s prophecy about drinking poison and handling snakes was fulfilled by Blessed Saint Paul (Acts 28:1-7). Then there are some Christians who themselves attempt to fulfill such prophecy…but this is sort of self-exaltation isn’t it? Notice Saint Paul did NOT deliberatly pick up the viper. Our Lord wasn’t speaking about a freaky side show to convince unbelievers…Many years ago a ‘holy-roller bible believing’ fundamentalist went to a Cathedral to tempt a Catholic bishop. The man tempted the holy bishop with a bottle of poison saying to him: “If you truly are a bishop of the Son of God you will have no fear in drinking this poison“. The good and holy bishop smiles looks at the man pushes the bottle back across the table and says: “Tell you what, YOU drink it, and then I will raise you from the dead.”

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  11. Davide writes: “Our Lord’s prophecy about drinking poison and handling snakes was fulfilled by Blessed Saint Paul (Acts 28:1-7).”

    Putting aside the snakes, let’s talk about general spiritual and mystical gifts of the Spirit: prophecy, healing, speaking in tongues, etc.

    Are you saying that those who believe that spiritual gifts are to be practiced today simply do not believe the Bible, or are you saying that they do not understand the Bible?

    You might find it interesting that the Catholic Charismatic movement (characterized by healings and praying in tongues) has gained some traction with the recent Pontiffs (http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/charismatic_renewal.htm).

    Is this core doctrine? Not quite, but it has certainly led to some heated debates within Christianity about who is a “true Christian” or not based on various interpretations of Scripture.

    So again … what does it mean to “believe the Bible” when matters of faith such as this cannot be settled once and for all by anyone? Who’s the arbiter? Who defines which interpretation is correct?

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  12. @ james columbus, friend, valid points!!! I can not speak of the “Catholic Charismatic Movement” I have never witnessed it myself. I can imagine for Protestants figuring out who is the arbiter and interpreter of Scripture can be messy…considering the 33,000, Protestant denomimations. Obviously us Catholics don’t have this puzzle. The Church is the arbiter and interpreter, to even be more unambigous the Pope by the authority of his office is the unique and singular arbiter and interpreter of Scripture, Natural and Divine Laws. Certainly, I affirm this to be “correct”. Thank you :)

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  13. Nice job with your answers. I agree with all the above. I have taught my daughter that being homosexual is the same as being with someone outside of marriage. It is all sin. She actually participated in “a day of silence” at her school on Friday, they went around silent for 24 hours to make a point about bullying kids who are homosexual. At first when she said she wanted to do this I didn’t know what to say, but I ended up just reminding her that it is sin and as long as she wasn’t going around saying it is okay to be gay, then I didn’t see why she shouldn’t do it. It is wrong and so sad when people are bullied because of their sin. We are supposed to look at the plank in our own eye first.

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    • As a gay person … I’d prefer the “Day of Silence” be a reminder to not bully anyone and to just shut one’s mouth instead of making another child’s life a living hell. I remember junior high like it was yesterday. Kids can be atrocious and adults just don’t see it because they look young and innocent and they do they things they do when adults aren’t around.

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      • Day of silence yes can be a good thing. But to portray other kids as monsters and teaching gay teens to be victims is not a solution either. I wonder if “Day of silence” is more about indoctrination than bullying…of course everyone knows those straight kids and their parents need rehabilitated…and no child gets bullied more than those kids who are not trendy and obese…where’s their voice?

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      • The gay/straight alliance at her school is who put this day at her school together. I agree all bullying is horrible, my daughter was bullied from 1st grade through 7th. I had to call cops in on it a couple times. That’s why I am so glad I am with God now. Nothing anybody says about me matters anymore, I know who God sees me as and He defines my worth. Adults can be ruthless also. All the hate in people because we let shame build up and make us violent is hard to watch, Eze 28. Then angry mean adults are the role models to our children. This world is definitely going down quick. We are all sinners, if we would just accept that simple fact, then we can live a life free from the weight and shame of it and find out who we were really meant to be. Kids will continue to grow worse, it’s going to be real scary out there more and more toward the end of this world.

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  14. your blog is amazing…really love it. I wish I’d read any of what you say on here as a teenager struggling with certain feelings. Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to use you. Thank you Lord for speaking through your son to many of us who are looking for the truth in a dark world.

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  15. “Unfortunately, these are the people that get most of the media coverage while the loving, yet truthful, Christian approach toward homosexuals often goes unnoticed.” Matt, unfortunately I think the main reason is these loving Christians typically sit by and say nothing about here loud ones… which in essence is giving approval to the methods they use.

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  16. I was raised pentacostal, right from birth born into the church. My dad’s a preacher, and he rasied a Christian family. And I support gay marriages 100%. I cannot stand my dad and his wife or the chruch, because they are all arrogant. My dad tried to kill me when I was in the 2nd grade, yeah the all-mighty-holy preacher tried to choke me. Don’t hate on gays, there is nothing holy about hatered. I’m proud to say I’m bisexual, no matter what anybody says.

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  17. I really like this. Well said, I think I will link to you on a blog post I am working on on the same topic. Great review on a controversial topic!

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    • @Clare:
      You infer that God created you in a state that cannot be changed. Scripture says that “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). If what you’ve stated were true, then we’re all hopelessly lost. Scripture also says: “Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15). The concept of depravity cannot be exaggerated for we all are within its grasp and without the sacrifice of Jesus we would be totally lost. Helping you recognize your sinful state (no matter what that may be) is doing the work God has given us all to do. Sweeping it under the rug for the sake of potential “harm” is harm in itself.

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